.308 Compass; 168g Hornady Match and Match Monster w/ Varget.

Since the last post, I decided to try another brand of 168g bullets for my Compass in 308.  Since this is a budget rifle, I am trying to stick to budget friendly bullets.  The 168g Speer Match bullets were not meeting my expectations.  For this week’s post, I picked up some 168g Hornady Match bullets, as well as a sample pack of Match Monster 168’s by Nosler from Mid South Shooters Supply.  The Hornady Match bullets cost me $25.16 for 100, and the Match Monster’s cost $5 for 20, which equals $25 per 100, so they on the same playing field.

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In comparing the bullets to each other there are a few differences.  The Hornady bullet is slightly longer than the Match Monster, or “MM” for short.  My average overall length was 1.228″ for the Hornady and 1.207″ for the MM.  The transition from the bearing surface to ogive is more distinct on the Hornady.  The measurement from bullet base to ogive is .630″ for the Hornady and .627″ for the MM.  The G1 B.C. for the bullets are .462 for the MM and .450 for the Hornady.  The only other difference I can see is the boat tail is just a little longer on the Hornady bullet.  Here is a side by side photo of both bullets.  The Match Monster is on the Left and the Hornady on the Right.

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For today’s loading I am sticking with Varget.  I do plan on picking up some Reloder 15 next time I see some.  This will be the 3rd firing of my Starline Brass.  I will probably anneal them after this firing.  The brass was primed with CCI # 200 Large Rifle Primers.  The charges will be exactly the same for each bullet, as well as the overall length.   The charges of Varget were 43.1g, 43.4g, 43.7g, 44.0g, and 44.4g’s.  The overall length was 2.820″ on average.  I did take a CBTO measurement of 2.238″ for the MM and 2.211″ for the Hornady.

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The temperature was in the mid 50’s today with a 5-10 MPH tail wind.  We received a couple of inches of rain this week, so I had to ride the 4 wheeler out to the bench.   More wind and rain are in the forecast for this week.  Since I have had a little trouble with barrel heat, I decided on 4 shot groups today.  I am considering a Chamber Chiller for this rifle.  This barrel heats up very quickly with its thin profile.  All groups were shot about 5 or so minutes apart.  I allowed the barrel to cool down enough after each group to place my hand on the barrel without getting burned.  I did have a few flyers today, but the groups were very good in my opinion.  Let’s get to today’s results.  The first 5 targets are the Hornady 168’s with Varget.

If three consecutive shots were close, I included a 3 shot group size.  The first group was Awesome!!!

 

Hornady 168g Match

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Now for the Match Monster 168’s by Nosler

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As you can see, there were some great groups today.  I decided to push my max charge up a little today since I hadn’t seen any pressure signs with the Speer Bullets.  All the brass looked great.  I am still seeing a touch of an ejector mark, but that’s just a characteristic of this rifle.  Going forward, I want to load up about 20 of the Hornady 168’s with the 43.7g charge of Varget.  I did have a flyer on my group today, but I want to stretch them out a little and get some chrono numbers.  Since the Match Monster’s were a sample pack, that’s all of them that I have.  They did okay, but I’m not interested in trying any more of them at this time.   Like I said before, this barrel is very sensitive to barrel harmonics.  once you find the sweet spot, it produces some great groups.  Now I’m curious how a ELD or Game Changer bullet in this weight range will do.   I do want to try some IMR4895 with these Hornady 168’s.  I even have a few 155g Barnes Match Burners to play with also.  So lot of options to play with in the coming weeks.  That’s going to wrap up today’s post.  Thanks for following along, and until next time, Happy Shooting.

 

If you haven’t seen the first 2 posts, check out these links:

The T/C Compass is Back!!!

T/C Compass .308: Speer 168g Match w/ IMR4895 and CFE223

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lonestar41
lonestar41

I too found the Compass temperamental as far as barrel heat. I resolved this by shooting just 3rds and with the aid of the Barrel Chiller let the barrel cool down 5 minutes.
These Compass rifles are neat and although they are for hunting, with a bit of TLC they can be dandy target rifles.
I sure enjoy your articles and videos.

tcoz
tcoz

The Hornady 168 gr Match are my favorite bullets for loading in my Ruger Precision 308 rifle. I tested them against Nosler CC 168gr and Sierra Matchking 168gr and they easily came out on top. They’re budget priced but in my book they aren’t a budget bullet

Eagle Eye Shooting
Eagle Eye Shooting

I’m loving these write up brother! Awesome info. I’m hoping for the wind to die down to try more testing

Alaskan Ballistics
Alaskan Ballistics

Have you tried any factory ammo with this rifle?
Thanks
-Chuck

Jerry 1911
Jerry 1911

Josh, it looks like you might be finding a diet the Compass likes. Since my Compass is .243, most of what I’ve developed for mine won’t necessarily work for your .308, but the Hornady’s are looking promising. Anxiously waiting…… ?

FortuneCookie45LC
FortuneCookie45LC

Nice job and that TC Compass is an amazing rifle – accurate and reasonable.

tommy
tommy

Definitely looks like your on the right track there Josh, some excellent three shot groups. Now its time for the tweaking to start and dial that baby in. I have a Ruger American Predator in .223 and I’ve shot some sub half MOA groups with that so you can achieve good accuracy with out laying down a months pay for a rifle.